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Hirudegarn - Strongest Villain in Z?
Topic Started: Sep 23 2010, 05:59 AM (2,522 Views)
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ignoring the bull***** of super toei goku killing hirudegarn....i think no one in z can match hirudegarn. i mean gohan and gotenks are like nothing to his second form but gohan gave buutenks at least a fight. and buuhan is merely gohan + super buu (goten trunks piccolo dont really matter too much). if hirudegarn can do that to gohan, i think buuhan's toast. only super vegetto can match this monster imo
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Vegetto IMO would WTFPWN Hirudegarn easily.
Yeah i would say he is stronger than Buu easily, but then again it is a movie.
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Piccolo Daimao > Piccolo Jr.

Buuhan or Vegito would own him, I go even futhor and say that Buutenks could do some damage to him to.
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Vegetto IMO would WTFPWN Hirudegarn easily.
hes stronger than buuhan though...so hirudegarn would put up a good fight. buutenks would be raped.
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Piccolo Daimao > Piccolo Jr.

No, He is not. Think can Goku beat Buuhan with a Dragon Fist? Don´t think so.

Vegito > Buuhan > Hirdugarn > Buutenks.
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yes. cos hes toei ***** super goku. like i said, hirudegarn lost cos he was severely weakened when he died. full power hirudegarn > anyone but gogeta/vegetto.
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Piccolo Daimao > Piccolo Jr.

Nope, Buuhan is also stronger then Hirdugarn or Goku would´ve fused.
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I still believe Boohan to be stronger. Bootenks was merely toying with Gohan. Hildegarn wasn't necessaryily "serious", as I don't know what he considers serious, but he definitely wasn't playing around when he knocked Gohan on his *****. I think Hildegarn is a bit stronger than Bootenks but not strong enough to topple Boohan.

And Janemba was toying with Goku too. Unless him powering up at the end when Gogeta arrived was a nonexistent scene and I'm just imagining things.
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If Only Gohan knew that insulting him was the sure-fire way to win.. He'd of rocked his ***** :(
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Indeed. I also think Janemba had his Fully Power´d moment when Gogeta arrived, Gogeta also said "Your own bad energy will be your undoing" probably implying that Janemba was not *****ing around anymore.
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If Only Gohan knew that insulting him was the sure-fire way to win.. He'd of rocked his ***** :(
That's just a dub line, a stupid one too. Hildegarn's true weakness is that he's open when he attacks, which is why Goku was able to get his Dragon Fist in.
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I thin Janemba is Super Buu level.

Hirudagrem's feats definiltey place him on a Buutenks level.
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Going by feats alone, then yeah, Hildegarn is a beast.
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I still believe Boohan to be stronger. Bootenks was merely toying with Gohan. Hildegarn wasn't necessaryily "serious", as I don't know what he considers serious, but he definitely wasn't playing around when he knocked Gohan on his *****. I think Hildegarn is a bit stronger than Bootenks but not strong enough to topple Boohan.

And Janemba was toying with Goku too. Unless him powering up at the end when Gogeta arrived was a nonexistent scene and I'm just imagining things.
But, it's not proven that he powered up. I think it can only be said that he revved his power up.

But I think that Hildegarn was probably stronger than Buutenks, but not Buuhan. I don't think he could take Buuhan on.
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>Buuhan is also stronger then Hirdugarn or Goku would´ve fused
he didnt need to since he knew the monsters weakness. considering hirudegarn just beat gohan and gotenks in one hit effortlessly, i think he would have fused with vegeta if he didnt know he could win without it. remember trunks cut off his tail. that probably drained the monsters power. and goku was saying through the movie "you have a weakness. everything does".

> Unless him powering up at the end when Gogeta arrived
probably letting out his energy in rage or something imo. gogeta wasnt even fazed.

alright but i still think anyone who can rape gohan gotenks goku and vegeta all at the same time has to be a beast.

if buutenks didnt have regeneration i think he would be toast vs hirudegarn.
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